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What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

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.....the truth was not the truth... ?

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Ponyo

Oh and since having my kids. The blood thing because a massive crisis of conscience to me. I thought how could I let my child die if they needed blood or if I needed blood as I had a hemorrhage in mh second birth. I thought. I would be guilty of murser and be blood guilty if I let that happen

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What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

by Ponyo in

.....the truth was not the truth... ?

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Ponyo

I personally had had some doubts about it all being true but I had faith in Jehovah, I started questioning things when I was looking into going vegan. I'd seen documentaries on the factory farming and the violent ways the animals were killed and tortured for meat, I thought why isn't the org looking into this. We aren't allowed to watch anything violent/immoral Etc. then after looking into vaccinations I also thought, some vaccines have blood fractions in them and DNA cells. Why haven't the org looked into this. Then I thought, it would be too unpopular to put these rules into place. But yet we cant celebrate birthdays/ Father's Day/ Mother's Day when there's no specific rule for that.

When they brought out the recent grey bible translation of the NWT I was thinking... Hmmmm I think it's a bit presumptuous to go translating the bible again.. Something sidnt sit right with me.

im now in the in between stage. Pretty confused. Don't know what to believe, cognitive dissonance and about 1/4 through COC. Looking forward to finishing this book.

Thanks for your replies. They're very interesting. I've also seen a little too many injustices in the congs

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What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

by Ponyo in

.....the truth was not the truth... ?

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Ponyo

.....the truth was not the truth... ?

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I'm so confused, help?

by Ponyo in

i want to share my story.

(might be a tad long).

i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

Ponyo

Thanks heaps dubstepped. I'm trying really hard here. I've been conflicted since our honeymoon which was 6 years ago and I actually feel really sorry for my hubby because he really does deserve better. :(

I am realizing it now. I've been brainwashed. I've started COC and I watched an hour interview of ray franz on YouTube and the relief from my shoulders was huge.

thanks for your reply. I have been beating myself up a bit with the other replies. I'm booking into a psych very soon.

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I'm so confused, help?

by Ponyo in

i want to share my story.

(might be a tad long).

i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

Ponyo

Thank you half banana, that was very helpful.

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Crisis of conscience

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does anyone know where i can buy coc for under $50?

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Ponyo

NJ501 thank you, where is it online?

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Crisis of conscience

by Ponyo in

does anyone know where i can buy coc for under $50?

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Ponyo

Does anyone know where I can buy COC for under $50?

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I'm so confused, help?

by Ponyo in

i want to share my story.

(might be a tad long).

i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

Ponyo

Ouch.

Okay I understand where you guys are coming from. Yeah my kids come first. Of course I would never leave them, is that what some of you are thinking? :( I do my best every day to give them everything they need.

I am also thinking of my husband in this situation. I think he deserves better than this. He deseerves someone who's truly in love with him.

Unfortunately I was an idiot and thought I was doing the right thing by jehovah. And it was the right thing by my mums standards and the religions hold on me.Not so much mine. I've never been selfish my whole life. I always put jehovah first or what my mum wanted.

I cousdnt even have my best friend as a bridesmaid at my own wedding because mum said she is worldly. You can't do that.

I've left out a lot of my life in this post. I really am not a drama queen. I don't have social media for that reason.ive just come to a point where I'm sick of doing everything for other people, I've never made descisions in my life because it feels right to me. And I'm over it. I wish I backed myself more.

I wanted to share my story as it's all in my head at the moment and I can't let it out to anyone and my head feels like it's going to explode,

but I will book into a counselor,

thanks for your time.

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I'm so confused, help?

by Ponyo in

i want to share my story.

(might be a tad long).

i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

Ponyo

Thanks fall guys. I will be doing more research. The Giles gray, Thanks for your reply too. And yes that's what I'm scared of.

Diogenesister thank you I will check that out.

Joho thank you I will have a read. I'm also in Australia. The top end :)

desirous of change. I know that fantasy man isn't all fantasy. I know life would be damn hard if I took that path. you have to realize that's what is messing with my mind, I know it's not going to be easy in the slightest and all butterflies and unicorns. But what about feeling empty in my marriage.

thanks for your replies. I'll continue reading x

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I'm so confused, help?

by Ponyo in

i want to share my story.

(might be a tad long).

i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

Ponyo

I want to share my story. (Might be a tad long)

I have no idea where I stand anymore regarding being a Jw and where I stand in my marriage.

im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

Theres not really a reason to sharing my story, apart from that I want to, and I don't really have many people to talk to that will give me support from a different viewpoint. (Already apostate thinking from me here) but I also have a question or two to ask of you, so please bear with me.

so I'm 28, I have two beautiful young kids. An 18 month old and a 3 month old. I'm married to a really great guy, And I'm very confused

I grew up a jw. My mum has always been extremely faithful to the enth degree, she has brought me and my sister up through some hard times but has always done her best to safeguard us and teach us what she thinks is right.

My dad, well he has some inner demons he's always dealt with and was in and out of the truth from a youngish age when his parents started studying when he was a teen. He's what you would call apostate now I suppose but officially inactive, not DF.

ive read a few stories on here of when some of you grew up and had pretty horrific experiences growing up in the organization. I really sympathized with you.

my upbringing wasn't so bad.

Mum and dad got divorced when I was 7. I don't remember much about that time. I think I block a lot out. My dad was a scumbag. Emotionally abusive, cheated on mum a lot. Mum finally gave up and got the divorce which was a good thing for all of us.

so mum did her best to bring us up, took us to every meeting, out in the field every Saturday. I found i took it all in my stride but didn't ever really make the truth my own. I changed schools a lot, when I was in grade 11 I changed to new high school, this was where I met some of my best friends I would ever meet. and also where I met the love of my life.

My dad was pretty intent on letting me do anything that would make my mum mad. So he would take me to the parties I wanted to go to, let me do what I wanted with my friends. A little careless now that I look back. But anyway I had a split upbringing which made it a little hard to focus on one path.

so back to the boy, I never looked at him as a potential bf. he wasn't someone I would probably go for. But he pestered and pestered me until I gave him a try. I knew having a bf was wrong, but boy did I get swept up fast. We were best friends, like the kind of friends that you could spend 5 hours on the phone to and it feels like 15 minutes. We would make each other laugh till it hurt. Every emotion together was intense. I got butterflies at the thought of seeing him first thing in the morning or when his name showed up on my phone.

We would sneak over to his house and put on a movie but never end up watching it coz we couldn't keep our hands of each other or we just spent hours talking. His mum told him, 'she's the one for you, don't let her get away'

looking back now he was and is I should say, a very wise intelligent person. He was never your typical high school jack ass.

I fell hard. I remember the feeling, when I fell in love with him. He was the most important thing in the world to me. He made me the happiest girl. I knew we were soul mates,. we would say we wondered if anyone else had this kind of love. I know now what we had was special. Like having the most amazing connection with your best friend. We never argued. I don't actually think we could have. Anyway.. We just clicked.

So of course my mum was pretty devo about it all when she found out. I can't remember all the details of what happened back then. But I know I broke up with him for a while because I felt it was the right thing to do for jehovah. He was an unbeliever. He believed in evolution, no God.

These were hard times for me. Not seeing or speaking to him.

We got back together and then broke up again. I got serious about the truth and got baptized. I wAs about 20. He started a study with an elder, and I was to have no contact with him. it was the hardest time, I felt such guilt if I messaged him to see if he was doing okay. He said he was really enjoying the studies and was even starting to go out witnessing with his study conductor. I was getting really hopeful and felt good about the future. Months went on. No contact. It felt like forever.

I got a job as a nanny for a sister in our cong. I worked there maybe 6 months and that's where I met my Now husband.

I was very intent on getting back with my bf (let's call him Leo) that I hadn't noticed he was falling for me.

Wewent to a convention together and after he said he was feeling things for me, he thought he loved me.

I was very flattered, but I told him I was kind of with someone, that they were studying but I wasn't having any contact with him.

So for the next 4 months my co worker showered me in gifts and love and kept asking to be mine.

I felt very torn, I quite liked him but I was waiting for Leo.

After another month or two, I caved. I told Samuel. (Not his real name) that I would give us a shot.

I told Leo what I was doing. And I waited to see what he would do with his studies.

He stopped, of course. What would any normal human do when a girl breaks your heart like that.

I thought, well I've made the right decision. The truth wasn't in his heart. He gave it up and I thought maybe this is jehovah directing me. I asked Leo if he was going to go back to the truth, he said no.

Things progressed fast with sam. After 8-9 months he proposed, and I said yes. 8 months later we were married. On our honeymoon I cried.

I felt like I had made a huge mistake. I felt lonely. I was on the other side of the world. Seeing and doing amazing things and I felt a hole inside of me. its been 6 years now. And that hole is still there.

I love my husband, he's a great guy, he works his butt of for us and gives me anything I ask for. but these feelings just don't go away. And it's killing me inside, it comes and goes like a wave. Sometimes I'm fine and I think life is great. Then I see something that reminds me of him and it hits me hard. I sink into depression for a couple months until I can climb out and start trying to live life again and forget.

I guess you would call me and my husband inactive. Well we are, but we still have the truth in our hearts. We are very busy with the children and their routines. It makes the spiritual routine hard.

A year or so after we were married I had a bit of a break down. I was very into health and fitness and I was the fittest I'd ever been, i was feeling great (apart from my heartache)

I went to gym and I'd walk out crying. I missed him so much it hurt. I thought to myself, for goodness sake. It's been 2 and a half years, you have to get over this. I would go to a cafe and write. Write all my feelings. I would get on google and look up stories of others in my situation, I would read jw articles on divorce and feel terrible. Then it would pass and I would feel good again and love for my husband.

again it came when I fell pregnant with my first child. then it passed.

Its back with a vengeance now and I'm nearly at breaking point. The last thing I thought I would be doing was looking at apostate websites. But I was googling again on divorce and looking some stories like mine. I've been reading a lot and now having doubts but I feel like it's because I'm just being selfish. That maybe this is Satan trying to lead me astray. That if I devoted myself more to jehovah things would start to go smoothly for me.

I don't know what to believe. It's always been the truth for me, I've never believed otherwise. And if the organization has faults, well I think it's because it's made of imperfect men?

My my mind is constantly going two and fro. I think of leaving and being with Leo. Then my mind says wtf are you thinking, you have two kids to a great man and a good life. I have things easy. But there's something missing for me. I have no chemistry with my husband, I feel nothing when he kisses me. I can't talk to him for more than 20 minutes. We have similar goals and we get along great. I like being with him. It's nice.. But I still have a hole inside me.

Ive spoken to Leo a couple of times throughout the years. He has a son now too and a new gf that he's okay with. But he says I'll always be The one and that I never leave his mind. And he has the same emptiness. I asked him if he would ever take me back, he said he wouldn't even have to think about it.

Guys im screwed. Like I really am. I'm in an effed up situation now and I really screwed up. I have doubts about the truth but then at the same time. What else is there? The Bible makes sense from what I have learnt..

how could I leave? Would I eternally regret it? How could I when me and Leo live 2500km away, I don't even know how to make that work. Am I crazy for thinking this is even a possibility?

But if I don't. Will I be empty forever? Will I show my kids a loveless marriage? will Armageddon never come and I be regretful I never took that risk?

My kids are my everything and they come first. I don't want to do anything that hurts them. I'm so torn. My mind never stops. I'm so tired. I'm in a conflicting state of mind all the time.

what made you leave the organization? Doesn't the Bible say his truth would be in the form of an organization? How else would the good news be preached? If you never had anything to begrudge about it why leave?

As you can see, I'm super confused and feel I'm at a crossroads in life. Everything is calm around me but my head is a storm. Always.

if you can offer any similar experiences. Please do? I need some support and help.

Thanks for reading,

ponyo.

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